EoT Guidelines

[Rovec]

We don't have many rules here so it's not too hard to follow no worries! Just listen up 'cause these few rules are important. If ya don't follow them ya might be kicked out of the LinkShell and ya don't want that right? ;D

Profanity of any kind is not allowed on the LS chat or in the party chat of a LS event
This includes using the auto-translate function to make sentences descibing perverted or vulgar actions. If we cant keep the conversations clean then please dont use the LS to chat!

No Cussing in LS Chat: Plain and simple eh? Any words that are considered cuss words may not be spoken within the LS chat. This means, no usein' the translator to Ghetto swear, shortened versions of it, and adding a z to the end of it doesn't change anything lol If ya slip up once in awhile no worries, but if your known to do it allot and often I'll give ya some warnings but in the end I'll kick you if ya keep it up.

Hopefully we'll never have to worry about this since I'm a hard guy to get too mad (or so I like to say lol) and we're all nice here right? But, I have final say on everything that goes on in EoT. If I don't like it, it stops.

If you want to plan any LS events, go ahead! The more we have the better! We don't want one every single day however lol That might get a little crazy. If ya wanna plan something just talk to me about it (PM here or in game) And I'll post it on the Calendar and make sure we don't have two events planned at the same time. I'll try to organize a few myself once in awhile and we might get a weekly thing goin'.

That's about all the rules for normal members ;P Other then that er...be nice...and send me gil!

Rules For Link Sack Holders: If you have a Link Sack then that means I trust you enough to invite new members and kick those that don't follow the rules if I'm not around to see it. If ya don't have a link sack that doesn't mean I don't trust ya, just means that everyone can't be a link sack holder Anywho, feel free to invite who ever you think would fit in here in EoT and make sure they understand the rules BEFORE they join. If ya wanna send me a msg go ahead but chances are I'll see them in game sometime.

If for some reason you feel someone needs to be kicked from the EoT I'd like some heads up so we can talk it over, however if your forced to kick someone no worries. For example if a member is cussin' up a storm and won't hush up or listen to ya you can kick him before he does any more damage just get a hold of me later somehow so I can figure out what happened. More likely then not I'll be there too see it, I'm on allot but if not just do what ya feel is right.

Staff Members On Forums: Mainly you'll be the Link Sack holders but if for some reason one of you is a staff member but not a Link Sack Holder, here are your rules. Please do not screw with the building blocks of the sight. It took me long enough gettin' it workin' lol I'd rather have it stay working. Besides that...have at it! Post on the Calender, make stickies, change posts and make someone looks bad...er...I mean, anywho just don't go too crazy ;D

Now...never try to milk a dead cow and I'll cya in Vana'diel!

~ Taru: I noticed that there is nothing in the rules bout punting mal >_> <_< since im not breaking the rules tell goero to not hurt me

[Goero]

Here are the rules that ODB was founded on.. it was the 3rd rule that sent ODB spiraling.. And if im right it was these two that EoT was formed upon...

"1- Profanity of any kind abbreviated or not is not allowed on the LS chat or in the party chat of a LS event
This includes using the auto-translate function to make sentences descibing perverted or vulgar actions. If we cant keep the conversations clean then please dont use the LS to chat!

2- Everyone will show Respect towards each other, Even if you do not like the person you can still be polite.
If someone says that something is bothering them or they are offended by something that was said then do not continue to do the irritating thing, as it prevents people from enjoying the LS. (I do not like to hear that people have had to remove there pearls because the language or crudness of the conversation became so degraded)"

[Kyunaris]

The language part is where I have to disagree. I know for a fact that you guys won't change it, but I feel like I have to complain anyway.

Why exactly is it that we can't use foul language? Is it really that horrible? I mean, everyone in the LS should have heard them at some point or another, and if they haven't, that means that they are too young to be playing this game. (If you want to follow PoL's rules in the LS, then you should also remember that this game is rated T for Teen, which means that kids under 13 shouldn't be playing in the first place.)

You may say that using curse words is immature and unnessary, but I think it's even more immature to tell us not to curse. Adults still curse too, and adults don't 'tell on' other adults when they curse, so why should we? They're just words!

So we should all be adults here, right? If profanity offends you, then I think you need to be a little more mature and not let meaningless words offend you in the first place.

[Goero]

its not the context of the words. It Started with Bayard... Bayard was a HEAVY church goer.. and didn't like that kinda language.

When EoT was created it was created OFF the guidelines of ODB.. we woulda stayed ODB cept for the fact we had no way of creating more Sack holders.. Hence limiting and only denying the inevitable destruction of the LS. So we cut it off and created EoT.

Yes.. I DID talk to bayard about the cussing rule when it was first created. He said he wanted to keep his LS Family oriented.. That if someone, in this example Crystalsea, under the ToS rules age were to play, they would have a safe LS to be in and enjoy. That kinda followed over.

If you ask some of the people in the LS that i talk to in /t they will tell you, that even i cuss. As im sure Rov probably does too (though he might deny it >.>).

Personally.. i hold the 2nd rule from ODB above EoT. as long as no one is offended i dun care, but what was mentioned that created this whole mess was HIGHLY offensive!

I did what had to be done... If anyone has a problem with the way i went about it. ok fine... Deal with it! its in the past now! Live in the here and now!

[Kyunaris]

Well yeah, I agree with you when the profanity is highly offensive, but just curse words, not directed at anyone, should be allowed.

(By the way..I don't really know what happened between you and Taru , Goero, or why you're *On Strike*, but if you'd want to explain it to me, a PM would be nice. >_> <_< )

[Rovec]

Well Goero just about said everything I would have (cept I VERY rarely ever cuss...like...once every 3-4 YEARS!...back on topic). You're right, we've all heard um and we're gonna hear um more. But we've also all heard and seen people dieing on the news, people starving to death in other countries, or heard of babies dieing before they can be born. Yes, we'll hear them but no, we don't want to hear it, because it hurts our souls to hear and see that sort of thing. Likewise, I know I'll hear cuss words all over the place, but if I can prevent them from being said in my LS and keep it a family setting like Bayard tried, then I'll do it.
(Just for future notice, this topic isn't mean for discussions ^^; In a couple of days I'll delete this conversation lol Or move it to another spot)

[Kyunaris]

I understand your point Rov, but curse words aren't a moral abomination, they aren't physically harmful at all, and at the most they're a tiny bit offensive. People starving and children dying are awful, and people are trying to put a stop to it. However, no one's going to try and put a stop to cursing, because there is no need, and one couldn't put a stop to it even if they tried. I know you don't approve of using curse words Rov, and I respect that, but it doesn't mean everyone else has to stop using them too.

[Chadness]

kyunaris said:

Why exactly is it that we can't use foul language? Is it really that horrible? I mean, everyone in the LS should have heard them at some point or another, and if they haven't, that means that they are too young to be playing this game. (If you want to follow PoL's rules in the LS, then you should also remember that this game is rated T for Teen, which means that kids under 13 shouldn't be playing in the first place.)

You may say that using curse words is immature and unnessary, but I think it's even more immature to tell us not to curse. Adults still curse too, and adults don't 'tell on' other adults when they curse, so why should we? They're just words!

So we should all be adults here, right? If profanity offends you, then I think you need to be a little more mature and not let meaningless words offend you in the first place.

No, being an adult physically doesn't mean you're mature. I think its very immature, as an adult, to use bad language on any sort of regular basis. Its definately unprofessional. Try to get a job if you use that sort of language on the interview. I hear people at work cussing up a storm, its like they have to add in a curse every five words for some odd reason. That is VERY immature. The English language is very diverse, there are any number of other words you can use to get your point across in a more mature manner.

Most curse words might not be a "moral abomination", but I know one of them is, especially if you read the history of it (the "F word"). Why do you think its the most taboo out of all of them?

The "S word" is just plain immature. "Ass" and "hell" technically aren't curse words at all, but people assume that they are in certain contexts.

That being said, there are times that people just need to let out some steam. If you know you have younger ones in the LS, keep this to tells. There are also times that these words slip out. If that doesn't happen on a regular basis for anyone, Rovec shouldn't throw a hissy fit. He needs to just let it slide by, because I'm pretty darn sure everyone in the LS knows the rules, its not like they're breaking them on purpose (unless they continue to do something offensive when they're asked to stop).

[Rovec]

:X Who throws hissy fits? ._.